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Yosuke Yamane, President of Panasonic's Imaging Network Business Division. With the official launch of Panasonic's new full-frame S1 and S1R getting close, we're looking back to Photokina 2018, where we sat down with Yosuke Yamane, President of Panasonic's Imaging Network Business Division. In our interview, Mr. Yamane discusses his hopes for the future, why Panasonic decided to go full-frame, and the challenges facing his industry. Why did Panasonic make the decision to move into full-frame? Five years ago, full-frame mirrorless cameras entered the market, and the trend since then has been moving towards full-frame mirrorless cameras. But at that time, we were not ready.

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Both in terms of technology, and also service and support, and so on. But now the time has come when our technology is ready to go. As you know, since we joined the camera business, we have introduced several worlds first technologies. Full-frame is a new challenge for us as an innovator.

We believe that we can provide value in the full-frame camera market. You've said that the ’S’ stands for specialized - what are these cameras specialized for? They’re specialized for professionals. That is a core target for us but we’re also targeting high-end amateurs and enthusiasts.

'Operability without compromise' What is your strategy for attracting professionals? Everything without compromise. Image quality, build quality, operability and performance. It takes all of our effort. As for image quality, we’re using newly developed 47 and 24MP full-frame sensors, and also a new processing engine, plus a high-quality lens lineup. And 4K 60p video. Fast, and very accurate autofocus, which is a combination of high-speed contrast detection autofocus and DFD technology.

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And this also includes deep learning Ai. Plus dual image stabilization and a high-precision, high-speed shutter. Also a very high resolution viewfinder - the highest-precision finder in the industry. Dual card slots, SD and XQD, which is essential for professionals, and a 3-axis tilting LCD. Operability without compromise. Our designers ran a lot of simulations and made a lot of prototypes of the grip, for example, to fit the needs of professional photographers.

Also optimal button layout, for intuitive controls. Four mockups of the S1/R's grip, which went through several rounds of refinement based on feedback from professional photographers.

Is there a technical reason for the unusually large body size of the S1 and S1R? DSLRs incorporate mirror boxes, but we have double card slots, an in-body stabilization system and high-quality movie features. So the body obviously gets bigger because of those features. We didn’t want to compromise on features for the sake of body size. Maybe some customers think that mirrorless cameras should be small, but we think that as a professional tool, this body size is appropriate. The advice from professionals is that they place more importance on performance, not size We have made this camera with our Lumix ambassadors. We got a lot of feedback from them and most of the professionals don’t feel that these cameras are ‘big’.

They feel that they are a very appropriate size. The advice from professionals is that they place more importance on performance, not size.

For example the shutter. Most competitive cameras are guaranteed to 200,000 actuations.

Our camera will be tested for more. That’s the kind of thing that we prioritize, for professional use.

Is it your intention that the S1 and S1R will be the most durable cameras on the market, when they’re released? We are targeting the very highest level of durability in the industry. The S1/R are entirely sealed to be dust and splash resistant, and operate in very low temperatures - even exceeding the limits of the GH5. The GH5 actually went to the South Pole in minus 40 degrees C, and worked perfectly. Such kinds of ‘no compromise’ features are all incorporated in the S1/R. There are a lot of photographers taking landscapes, sports, and nature, and we're gathering feedback from all of them. The cameras need to work in all kinds of conditions from very warm to very cold.

So we focus on all of the requests from consumers with the intention of making these cameras without any compromise. Panasonic claims that the S1 and S1R will offer the highest standard of durability in the industry, while offering professional-oriented feature sets and a very DSLR-like handling experience. Do you think that over time, your L mount lineup will grow to include entry-level products, or do you see it purely as a high-end system? The first generation will be specialized for professionals but in the future, of course we’re also aiming to attract entry-level users. In that eventually, we’ll study the question of performance versus size. But our image to professional users is very important. That’s why we’re attacking this segment initially.

We decided that it was better to collaborate, than to create our own standalone mount What is the strategic value of the L mount alliance, to Panasonic? We’ve had a good relationship with Leica for a long time - 17 years. Four years ago we renewed our contract. That contract included a technical collaboration, with our digital technology and their optical technology. There will be a convergence. In that contract we discussed a lot of things relating to the shared mount. Sigma produces very reliable high quality lenses, and we knew that in order to get into the new business, we needed a lineup of lenses.

So we decided to collaborate with Sigma to make a big impact. I have a good relationship with Mr Yamaki, CEO of Sigma, I trust him and I respect his aggressiveness towards the market. This collaboration provides a lot of value for us, entering into a new market and becoming competitive in full-frame. Considering value for customers, we decided that it was better to collaborate, than to create our own standalone mount. This way we can provide lots of choices for lenses, and Sigma already has a large fanbase. Obviously Leica with its 100 year history also has a good base of users.

The Leica L mount lineup includes APS-C products as well as full-frame. Is Panasonic interested in APS-C? We have our own Micro Four Thirds system and we think that because of the greater difference in size between full-frame and M43 this is the best balance. We have no plans to develop APS-C products. In M43, we prioritize compactness. But in full-frame we set higher targets, to meet professional specifications Is designing lenses for full-frame easier or more difficult than designing for Micro Four Thirds?

It’s more difficult. In the case of M43, we prioritize compactness. But in full-frame we set higher targets, to meet professional specifications. This camera the S1R incorporates a 47MP sensor, but to be futureproof, lenses should be capable of resolving more resolution than that. So we set very high specification targets for our full-frame lenses. We will develop our lenses without compromise.

Other important factors are build-quality, and bokeh. These are both very important when it comes to creating photographs. Do you think Panasonic’s L-mount lineup could evolve in future to include products like the GH5S, which are optimized for video? One of our assets is our experience of professional video, over more than 40 years. This is one of the areas where we contribute to the market, so in the future it’s possible that our L-mount lineup will expand to include such products. But even the S1 has very good video capabilities.

We cannot disclose the exact specification beyond saying that it will be capable of 4K/60p video but you can expect more. Even the S1 will be used, we believe, by professional videographers. The 24MP and 47MP sensors inside the S1 and S1R will be capable of high-quality 4K video capture as well as stills shooting. The sensors inside the S1 and S1R are described as ‘newly developed’. Are they fabricated by Panasonic?

We cannot disclose that. I would love to tell you but I can’t - you’ll just have to imagine! Obviously we have sensor-manufacturing experience, but I can’t disclose anything. Even if we outsourced sensor fabrication the design would still be to our specifications. Picture quality is not only determined by the sensor. There’s also lens design, and processing technology. Can you explain how Panasonic and Leica work together in terms of lens design?

Mainly, optical technologies and manufacturing technologies come from Leica. We provide our digital technology and interface technology to them. For the full-frame lenses, we designed them by ourselves, but the DNA of Leica is incorporated - of course. Is there any Panasonic DNA in Leica products?

I don’t know if they would admit that, but we do provide it! All of the Leica-branded lenses for our Micro Four Thirds system are checked according to Leica’s standards, and we have learned a lot through that process. What are the biggest challenges facing Panasonic? As you know, in the camera industry we don’t have a large market share compared to the likes of Canon and Nikon. They have much more history compared to ours - we've only been in the industry for 17 years.

Our brand recognition is also not so high. However, a paradigm change has finally arrived. Canon and Nikon are creating new mirrorless systems, and we’re entering a new world thanks to the L mount alliance.

This is a new start for the camera industry. Our slogan is 'changing photography'. We want to create a new photo culture for the digital generation.

In the full-frame world, I think that customers will appreciate our contribution. Rather than competing with Canon and Nikon we’re focused on conveying that message to the customer. We want to create a new photo culture for the digital generation When it comes to product planning, we have to anticipate how customers behavior will change in the future. These models the S1 and S1R are focused on professionals.

We have to anticipate how professional photography and videography will change, and we’re constantly looking at those trends, and anticipating how professional behavior will change. And as professionals change, customers at the entry and mid-levels will change, too. We have to watch this very carefully, and we always plan our products in line with changing customer trends. What do you think are the biggest opportunities for Panasonic? The Olympic Games in 2020 will be a very big opportunity to showcase Panasonic’s technologies. I was born in 1964, which was the year of the last Tokyo Olympics. We will use the 2020 games as an opportunity to enhance our video technologies and photo technologies.

After the Olympics, we will create a new generation of 8K video cameras, which are currently in development. Editors' note: Barnaby Britton Panasonic is one of the most interesting companies in the photo industry. Although it enjoys only a modest share of the market compared to 'giants' like Canon and Nikon, Panasonic has consistently surprised us with its energy and innovation - particularly in the high-end video/stills space. Arguably, Panasonic is the only company that could have created the powerful GH5, and it's hard to imagine another company having the confidence to make the even more narrowly-specialized GH5S. When it comes to high-end video capture in mirrorless cameras, Panasonic has been (along with Sony) a driving force in the industry, and that's thanks to the company's long experience in the video realm. While Lumix as a brand is less than 20 years old, Panasonic has been involved in video, in some way or another, for more than twice that long.

The fact that Panasonic's forthcoming S1 and S1R mirrorless ILCs will both offer powerful 4K video feature sets is not a surprise. What's interesting is that they're built around full-frame sensors. I'm inclined to think that moving into full-frame is a good decision for Panasonic, but it's risky. I agree with Mr. Yamate that moving forward in partnership with Leica and Sigma will add more value to the market for enthusiast and professional photographers than creating yet another new lens mount, while also mitigating the potential risks of going it alone. Promising the highest level of durability in the industry and plenty of advanced features, the S-system has the potential to seriously challenge the 'giants' While there are plenty of full-frame mirrorless systems available in late 2018, there is a conspicuous gap in the market when it comes to full-frame video systems. It is doubtful whether Nikon will try (or even feel the need to try) to create a video-oriented ILC in the near future, and Sony seems to have (probably only temporarily) paused the development of its a7S lineup.

Panasonic, with its decades of experience making video cameras, must be keen to put a product into that gap. If the company's intention is to lead the way in full frame video, similar to what it did with the GH series for Micro Four Thirds, it has the potential to disrupt the full frame market more than its current industry share might suggest. Joining the L-mount alliance is a great first step.

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But that's the future. Yamane's company is dedicated to making the S1 and S1R as attractive as possible to professional photographers. '.They’re specialized for professionals. That is a core target for us but we’re also targeting high-end amateurs and enthusiasts.'

Translation: 'We're following the new consumer tech road to success: label the product 'pro', and the more-money-than-sense subgroup of amateurs open up their pockets. Otherwise they are stingy. '.The sensors inside the S1 and S1R are described as ‘newly developed’. Are they fabricated by Panasonic?

We cannot disclose that. I would love to tell you but I can’t - you’ll just have to imagine! Obviously we have sensor-manufacturing experience, but I can’t disclose anything. Even if we outsourced sensor fabrication the design would still be to our specifications. Picture quality is not only determined by the sensor.

There’s also lens design, and processing technology.' Translation: 'No, of course Sony manufactured it.' Since the 1960s, I have purchased many Panasonic products, (audio/video, broadcast editing machines, field acquisition decks, 3 tube/ 3 chip high end industrial cameras, telephones, early mirrorless cameras, etc.) and I can say what keeps me coming back, is Panasonic's reliability/ quality. I usually do not wear the equipment out, it just becomes obsolete.

This new Full Frame 4k S1 Camera with Cinema capability could really be a useful tool to the industry. I am looking forward to it's introduction. Actually I never wore any advanced technical device out;-) They are all limited by the use case and the use case changes faster than the durability of the devices would allow. Sold my 5D II for ⅓ of the punching price after eight years of using it without a single scratch and this camera has been used on the bigger part of the norther hemisphere - almost everywhere with 120 k images taken in those eight years. The camera was in pristine condition except a minor small scratch on the rear display. I don't expect my current gear to wear off in 10+ years as well.

Maybe I am just a careful user;-) BTW - the progress of (useful) innovation at some brands is so high that the extension of use cases almost faces to buy new bodies. I'd have loved to see canon to innovate that fast in the past. Being in the advent of 60+ MP sensors with 15.16 steps DR I can hardly wit for the next innovation step;-). 1) 'Extra durability'??!! I would not pay any premium for extra durability on top of the Nikon D800 durability of 5+ years and 78.000 shutter actuations without a hitch from minus 15 centigrade to plus 40 degrees centigrade.

Panasonic claims lenses with significantly larger resolving power than 47 Mpix. Sounds like it will be difficult to convince my wife why this would be a requirement. Between the lines it sounds like P could be using the same chip foundry as Nikon. I guess that means chip quality in excess of what others have offered recently - except Nikon and Sony:-) I am careful not to mention names and ruffle feathers LOL I am not a P-basher.

I bought the Panasonic FZ1000 and it has wonderful 4K video and great 1' chip photo quality in adequate, outdoors light up to A4 prints. As does the Sony RX100-II. Big does not automatically mean professional IMHO. That's determined by terms like reliability, or a worldwide service network with fast turnaround times.

Nikon made the step from normal to big aka pseudo 'professional' by going from the F3 to the F4/F5. Happily they changed their mind with the new small sized z6/z7. If somebody thinks he needs a bigger body he can always add a motor or today battery pack. But you cannot do it the other way around and make your camera body smaller. The best camera is the one you have with you, and not the one that's at home in your closet because it's too big and heavy. Panasonic interview - 'We are targeting the very highest level of durability in the industry' Please proof that, Mr. Yamane, i'd love to see the S1/R fully working onto one of the extreme places here, meaningful Antarctica, and also into Russia: How about a four weeks up to 3 months test, under these conditions?

And into comparsion -how a EOS-R, 5D IV, and D850, A7/R III, and Z6/Z7 Series would handle - under these heavy negative temperatures. And also the Opposite - the hottest places on earth: And testing weather sealing, of course also. No offense - but the Sony guys would then being out earlier than the others, i'd think.as Roger Cicala and others showed the weather sealing from Sony. I'm looking forward to the launch of this Panasonic FF system. It's going to be tough to garner new clients given the well established marques out there but Panasonic have always striven for innovation. I'm excited by that prospect and their commitment to quality. There has been some mention here about poor support for past products and that is not good.

I reckon Panasonic know that they will need to do better in order to compete with the big boys. If not then they will fail but I'm optimistic.

It's good news to have a real innovative presence on the photography industry scene. For us cinematographers and videographers, I wrote an OPEN LETTER to Panasonic to highlight the needs for a reinvented focus control system for professional. I think focus control in video is a big hurdle and is long overdue for some innovation, and I think LUMIX-S is the perfect opportunity for Panasonic to tackle it.

If you are a video shooter, please share what you think on this issue. If more people talk about this and start thinking about the possibilities, I hope Panasonic will start to take professional focus control seriously.

The open letter can be found here: Jack. Without lower prices and fast free warranty repair INCLUDED then it all means NOTHING. Because otherwise there's little incentive to make a durable product. In fact; it's motive to not. Because they are over priced disposables.

In other words; the way it's supposed to work is they(any maker) can bend over backwards and even give you a brand new replacement; BECAUSE it never hardly happens. Then and only then can there be bragging. I still have a Panasonic with failed ON/OFF switch. They required me to sign up for all manner of run around and did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I guess they thought I would forget. Durability is not Panasonic’s thing.

Don't be tricked. I think that everybody, part fanboys et such, sees that new S1/S1R will be overall the FF mirrorless segment top specs cams in 2019.

If this will be verified in real life, I think that more or less it will, we are going to enjoy two things: a. Acceleration of reactions of competitors.

A war in terms of communication in every aspect. The first is by all means positive for photography and its lovers. The second will be the best soap-opera in digital photography in which fan boys, 'experts' and media will give their best. Without Panasonic targeting FF ML at the high end Nikon and Canon would be allowed to phase out their professional dslr business gracefully - that is where all their professional level lenses reside as well. By making “the best” high end professional FF ML camera bodies the end of the dslr might no longer “be nigh” it will “be here”. Especially if Nikon and Canon respond by launching their own professional level FF ML bodies which I am sure are sitting in their test laboratories right at this moment.

I have always been sure that it would be Nikon and Canon that would kill off the dslr by their own actions.I still don't understand why there is no company out there willing to produce a camera with a slightly oversized square sensor! Yes the sensor would cost more but I'm sure there would be a lot of customers willing to pay the bill. This in combination with EVF could really be extremely competitive to Canon and Nikon. Just imagine switching from square to 16:9 in one go.

From horizontal to vertical without turning the camera!!!Everyone seems to be fixed on 35mm! I really don't understand why. Zavart, this has been discussed many times.

Having an oversized square sensor with multi-aspect horizontal and vertical format options is an attractive idea and many would be for it - if the mount systems could be re-designed from the ground up. However, making the V dimension the same (or even close) as the H dimension is not feasible with existing FF mounts and lens systems, for three related reasons: 1. Look into the mount, you'll see an arched row of contacts sitting on a bulkhead. This design element, a fixture of all modern FF systems, immediately limits the V dimension. Following design element 1, existing lenses have baffles & contacts that limit the vertical image angle. One might imagine a rotatable mount, adding lots of complexity, but still any aspect ratio. Joel Halbert Sorry but with all due respect I'm not convinced!

Panasonic, Nikon and Canon were actually designing the mount from THE GROUND UP. Secondly I haven't said that such sensor would be 100% used in every orientation.

The idea is that in 16:9 could go much more towards the edges of the imaging circle, just like the present sensor in LX100, but when switched to square would go more towards the centre but still would be able to cover much more area because it would compensate by using the sensor area above and below of normal FF size. Assuming the final camera looks like the one in the image, the design is certainly. Personally I don't mind it - a refreshing change from the curvy blob aesthetic and takes me back to when Knight Rider was on TV. I suspect all those raised buttons will be great in use - should be really easy to find by feel, unlike those from a certain market leading camera maker, who seem to delight in having buttons almost flush with the body so you can neither find them or press them. Not convinced by the top dial being right on the shoulder like that, but all the other controls look really practical. Will look forward to getting my hands on one.

Shame I'll never be able to afford it! I have the G9. Nope, CAF cannot match my D500. That's a smaller sensor. Imagine a larger sensor with on sensor performance.

I'm not expecting the Pana FF with CDAF to be any better than the G9 and expecting it to be worse. Pana has been BS about improving the C-AF for GH5 and G9, yes they have released new FW but still not there. If they can't do it for a small sensor, i doubt it.

What'll happen is people will fall for the video spec and try to justify that they don't need AF etc. The S1 will be the same story. Another one which i hate about all those BS about how great the slow mo but nobody comments that its MF only. Pana should have taken the opportunity to jump to PDAF and develop lens around it.

I like the G9 for all those nice functions, the S1 would be the same but they'll have one issue: the AF.and the flip screen. It's almost like these Japanese manufacturers intentionally leave gaps. For others to survive. So cheap and affordable and Nikon and Canon snigger all the way to the bank and the Pro-level dslr will still rule he roost for another 10 years? Cheap and affordable and the L-Mount will die a thousand deaths because. “Panasonic” does not have “camera-heritage” written all over it.

To succeed, to make the L-Mount succeed, all L-Mount product has to be the best even if it is unaffordable. Why buy an affordable Panasonic when Nikon and Canon sell “affordable” gear into the same market segment? Once the pro-level Panasonics, Sigmas and Leicas pave the way and get a reputation as being “suitable” and acceptable to the Pro-shooters then the reflected glory will make a market for the wannabes called the “affordable versions”. No rush, I doubt if Panasonic expects to sweep the market but they do wish to have a good percentage of Pro-shooters using their cameras and L-Mount lenses. The well heeled amateurs might settle for a Pro-level Panasonic body and adapted EF mount lenses.

If they want to get a share of the professional market then they are going to have to develop a good service infrastructure. I bought a Panasonic 100-400 lens which was faulty out of the box - it wouldn’t focus.

I contacted Panasonic Australia. It took 6 emails and four phone calls to find out that in Australia the servicing is contracted out to a third party. Panasonic said they would pass on my details to the service provider and they would contact me. Three months later they have not. I’ve tried getting the contact details for the service agent from Panasonic and they won’t give them. To put this into context I had my Canon 6d develop a fault. I sent it in to Canon and they apologised that Christmas would delay things, but they sent it back repaired in 14 days - it arrived 2 days before Christmas.

People bag Canon but I reckon you only really find out about a company when something goes wrong and how they fix it. I think Yamane is specifically acknowledging your point, that they haven't previously had the right support network. Of course, he didn't acknowledge that what they have (in the USA and perhaps Australia etc.) needs a lot of work even for non-pro consumer-market support. We could all hope that the new 'Lumix PRO' support program will: - Achieve its advertised goal, - Rub off some best practices onto the consumer repair department, or - at least not steal resources, priority and top employees to make the consumer service problems even worse! @ Joel Halbert What worries me is that Yamane doesn't see m4/3 as pro orientated so will it be included in any pro service program? I have quite a comprehensive m4/3 kit built around both Olympus and Panasonic products and I use them extensively for my work. But my backup is Canon full frame as kit can be serviced easily.

At this stage I can't see myself going full frame with Panasonic as the support just isn't there and also their AF technology with DFD just won't cut it on a full frame sensor with its inherent smaller DOF. The video AF on m4/3 is barely usable and I end up using manual focus. Paul, the announced qualifications and initial 'Platinum' tier services for the Lumix PRO program are at - click on the USA link. Sorry, no link for the unfortunates in the Southern Hemisphere; they are apparently still below the PRO horizon so to speak. (Give it a little time.) To qualify (be allowed to participate for $199/year), you must own two of these bodies: G85, G9, GH4, GH5, GH5s plus four qualifying lenses (the Leica-branded line, the 2.8 zooms, and for some reason the 14-42 kit and the 45-175 power zoom qualify, but strangely many others including quality stalwarts like the 20/1.7 and the 7-14 do not). I would think that any of the upcoming Full-Frame bodies and lenses will qualify upon release; per the interview any non-pro-level L-mount equipment is farther in the future. Regarding your comment about shallower DOF being a problem, please see my earlier answer to DrJon on that very topic - I think the opposite.

I’m not so sure. I’ve read a few papers and comments from Panasonic engineers about having to use work around on long lenses at fast apertures rather than rely on the DFD.

It’s to do with the flutterering of the contrast detect AF not being able to grab hold of the subject and lock the focus. Panasonic advises that you focus at an object at a similar distance and then recompose. This does not help if the subject is moving. This becomes particularly apparent when shooting video. I suspect that there is insufficient raw processing power.

Hybrid systems don’t suffer so much from this as the PDAF makes the coarse adjustments leaving the CDAF to just make fine adjustments. I keep meaning to put a blog post and video up demonstrating this but I never have the time to finish it. Paying gigs get priority. Zavart, you're not alone, but there are problems taking it all the way to square. See my longer answered to your other post.

Mariusz, I was also hoping for a bit of multi-aspect (like GH2 for example) and it's still possible that the 16:9 video could be wider than 36mm. But the boundaries on this are limited by the existing mount specs and lens specs. Also, I'm not sure Panasonic wants to confuse potential but skeptical customers, or create a meme for detractors that 'It's not really Full-Frame!' - even if the 'Not Really' were a super-set that included existing FF. 'In M43, we prioritize compactness' No GM5 successor. M4/3 MILCs as big as APS-C MILCs or DSLRs.

Panasonic, we do not share the same sense of compactness. ' We have our own Micro Four Thirds system and we think that because of the greater difference in size between full-frame and M43 this is the best balance. We have no plans to develop APS-C products.' Panasonic making M4/3 cameras as big as APS-C cameras they, for sure, do not need to develop APS-C products.

Instead, they planned to make big FF MILCs. So that there is a significant size difference between their FF and M4/3 bodies! Thank you, Pana! 'Plus a Fast, and very accurate autofocus, which is a combination of high-speed contrast detection autofocus and DFD technology' Interested to see how that performs in video mode.

I am not really concerned with photo AF, if it's similar to the G9 then it's enough for sports photography, it's video where the challenge comes with hunting. Since I got the Eos R I threw all the focus pulling job to the camera and it genuinely improved my workflow, and in my experience the Z7 & A7RIII are just as good, all reliable for reall work.

If this S1 is GH5-like, that'd be a big disappointment for its immense video potential. 4K 60p, V-Log, FF readout, SL class EVF, articulating screen, man that's the mirrorless we've been dying for. A bit amused they talked about m43 being all about being compact, as my GH5 is more compact-ish (but generally good).

The issues I have with the FF Panasonics are: (1) DFD is still, on the greater-DoF G9/GH4/5/s, way behind Canon's DPAF for video-AF. How will it go in a shallower-DoF sphere? (2) If Panasonic want to sell me expensive lenses what are they going to do to avoid the high sample variation (and no way to tweak the optics post-production) they have? (I'd like to have a m43 42.5/1.2 but they are all different and I don't know a shop that would let me have 8 and choose the good one).

(3) Look like being very expensive. (4) Will be very curious to see if they allow DFD to work with Leica and Sigma lenses, or as currently, just their own. I wish them luck, but suspect I'll be a spectator. (the GH5 is luckily still good).

I won't venture to predict how much better, if any, the S1/S1R DFD-AF will be compared to the latest MFT version. But regarding your point (1), FF having shallower DOF at any given f/number, this should be an engineering advantage, not a disadvantage. It increases the sensitivity, i.e. Boosts the response of the OOF contrast signal for a given amount of lens de-focus. In control-system language, it increases the gain of the feedback control loop. And regarding shallow-DOF as a traditional AF accuracy challenge, that doesn;'t really apply to CDAF in general.

It's already inherently calibrated to the target which is exactly the on-sensor image, so it doesn't have the focus-accuracy challenge of conventional mirror-SLR PDAF. On-sensor PDAF methods, I believe, mainly solve the problem of initial OOF direction (too near or too far) and approximate OOF amount. Same for DFD. I believe that all the mirrorless systems, even with on-sensor PDAF, will achieve final target focus in CDAF mode. Well if they want to claim durability, they really need to start actually quote a IEC Standard publication 529 splash resistant test in the documentation. Granted, Olympus is only IPX1 (the weakest level) for the E-m1/E-m5 bodies, but the last time I checked, Panasonic did not list any splash resistant claim.

Here is what IXP1 means: 'Dripping water (vertically falling drops) shall have no harmful effect. Test duration: 10 minutes, equivalent to 1 mm rainfall per minute.' FWIW, I had a Panasonic lens (100-300mm mark II) stop working when I got splashed on a whale watch (lens was attached to a G85, and my E-m1 mark I with Olympus 14-150mm mark II survived). I was able to get it working, but it didn't leave me with a good feeling about Panasonic splash resistance.

I still wonder why they choose tilting LCD that they did for a camera that looks more video oriented instead of a more normal fully articulating LCD. I'm curious what they will present and how it performs and handles. That L-mount consortium sounds very interesting. Also, if they have a sensor that they did design (like Fuji, Hasselblad and OnePhase design their sensor, but have them manufactured by Sony, based upon a Sony blueprint), they could enter with a bang. Sigma Art L-mount lenses combined with a FF L-mount camera, that probably can do full sensor read-out 4K video, build like a tank and its ergonomic tested with photographers.

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Almost sounds too good to be true. I will go FF in the next future so I've been following the latest FF mirrorless releases from Canon and the likes, and now this one: I fully agree that mirrorless does not equate compactness, and this cam looks serious enough, well built and reassuring. However Panasonic sticks to CDAF - DFD revisited, so I suppose that rules out AF'ing third party lenses with adapters, not like Sony.

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All this talk about the ' pro ' clientele leaves me cold, I can't see why a working pro would switch to this new mount, unless of course a significant gain in one area or the other.nah, this cam is for ' enthusiasts ', the well-off kind, and guys who are already fans of Pana. Or maybe ' durability ' means the cam will be able to withstand the 5-6 years necessary to be recognized as a viable alternative? Now I really wish Panasonic success, they make great m4/3 bodies and lenses, with well thought out ergonomics and features ( not like you Oly.). Extremely high standards for ergonomics, build quality, durability, I/O, image quality, video quality, and video features would be the primary differentiators for Panasonic here. Arguably there are no 'pro' mirrorless cameras on the market yet, in that they all have liabilities in one or more of the above categories. Sony, for instance, has exceptional sensors and electronics, but simply can't seem to make properly robust weather-sealed bodies with ergonomics that correspond to the large, heavy GM lenses they are selling.